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Wednesday, 26 November 2008
Hogans run may be tiny, but encased in an urban jungle, it is an oasis of peace.

Hogans Creek can be seen mendering through the urban landscape in the middle of this aerial.

 

Reflections on Hogans Creek

My wife and I are avid paddlers.  We have paddled most of the waterways of Central and North Central Florida, and none are any more beautiful then the "REAL" parts of Hogans Creek. Hogans is a National Treasure just waiting for someone to tend the garden.

Florida has a fantastic canoe heritage, being one of the first and last places on earth that the classic canoe was seen in daily life. IE: Isiah Harts Ferry at the "cow ford" was a simple canoe.,   The Seminole Tribe of Florida / State Park / Fresh Water - Fish and Game all still use canoes.

Even more important to buffs is that Jacksonville has a huge canoe club, and that Florida was the last place of residence of Gene Jensen, before his quiet - at home death on May 15, 1994. Gene was Henry Ford, Dale Earnhardt, Lewis and Clark of the paddle world. He retired to Inverness, but stayed active up until the end. There are some photos of his funeral procession (on the water of course) and his NASA-Like designs.
 
His high performance canoes were designed to effortlessly keep pace with small powered fishing boats! Amazing. I'm not sure Gene ever got to Hogans Creek, if he had, we wouldn't be trying to save it - it would be a DONE DEAL.  Hogans run is tiny, maybe a half mile, but to be encased in an urban jungle, it is an oasis of peace.  Have fun, let's make some folks get outdoors and bring about a SAVE OUR (TINY) Historic WATERWAY project.

Robert Mann









 



 

 

Photo Tour By Robert Mann

 

Additional Images of Hogans Creek


 



Examples of what Hogans Creek can become


Fort Wayne Rivergreenway

 The Rivergreenway Trail is a 20 mile long linear park in Fort Wayne, Indiana. The Trail is along the banks of the St. Marys, St. Joseph and the Maumee Rivers. Much of the Rivergreenway has been funded by the State of Indiana and the federal Land and Water Conservation Fund. The Rivergreenway trail is your opportunity for recreation, fitness and conservation while getting away from it all but still being linked close to everything.

A linear park is a long, narrow park with limited access that is ideal for activities such as bicycling, hiking, nature study, jogging, rollerblading or just going for a leisurely walk. The Rivergreenway offers natural vistas and scenic overlooks within an urban environment. It creates a synergism between country and city settings that affords users the opportunity to enjoy the best of both. Additionally, it creates a natural overflow against the invasion of high water which helps mitigate the ravages of flooding.

The Rivergreenway Trail is owned and maintained by the Fort Wayne Parks and Recreation Department and the City of Fort Wayne Public Works Department.

http://www.fortwayneparks.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=52



Indianapolis Canal Walk

The Canal Walk located just west of downtown Indianapolis in the White River State Park is a feature attraction for all ages, and serves as a true connection between the serenity of the park and the bustle of the downtown area. One of the many features of the White River State park and the Canal District of the city, the Canal Walk serves as a recreational and entertainment experience for the people of the downtown Indianapolis area.

The canal features a three mile walkway alongside the remnants of the original Central Canal running from the White River Park, north to 11th Street. The original Central Canal was intended to be part of a large-scale commerce project envisioned to improve transportation and shipping methods throughout Indiana through a series of canals. Due to a lack of proper funding for the project, the Indianapolis portion of the canal was never connected with any additional canals in Indiana and was eventually acquired by the Indianapolis Water Company. The Water Company would use the canal for various power production activities until it was deeded to the city of Indianapolis in 1976.

1985 would bring a revitalization of the canal, with draining and rebuilding projects improving the usability of the defunct canal. The canal was lowered and rebuilt with concrete to support the bottom and banks of the canal. Once filled, the canal was declared ready for public use and renamed the “Indianapolis Canal Walk”.

The canal is now a vibrant area of the downtown scene and is a prime spot for jogging, walking, rollerblading, bicycling, and overall relaxation and enjoyment of the waterway.

http://indianapolis-indiana.funcityfinder.com/indianapolis-canal-walk/

 

San Antonio Riverwalk

The San Antonio River Walk (also known as Paseo del Río) is a network of walkways along the banks of the San Antonio River, one story beneath downtown San Antonio, Texas. Lined by bars, shops and restaurants, the River Walk is an important part of the city's urban fabric and a tourist attraction in its own right.

Today, the River Walk is an enormously successful special-case pedestrian street, one level down from the automobile street. The River Walk winds and loops under bridges as two parallel sidewalks lined with restaurants and shops, connecting the major tourist draws from the Alamo to Rivercenter mall, to the Arneson River Theatre close to La Villita, to Hemisfair Park, to the Tower Life Building. During the annual springtime Fiesta San Antonio, the River Parade features flowery floats that literally float.

http://www.thesanantonioriverwalk.com/


 

 
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» 18 Comments
uptowngirl
November 26, 2008, 6:32 am
Re: Paddling up Hogans Creek

Beautiful pictures. Hogans Creek has so much potential to be a wonderful USEFUL waterway again.

I heard somewhere that you could paddle from downtown to the ocean back in the day. I also hear there was a lock system and it produced electricity way back when... how cool is that??!!!
jbm32206
November 26, 2008, 6:34 am
Re: Paddling up Hogans Creek

I would love to see Hogan's creek cleaned up and become more of what it was and certainly could be again. It would be so cool to be able to canoe it's path. Even though it's usually cluttered with trash, I still visit the creek often, as it's always a wonderful place to do birdwatching.
vicupstate
November 26, 2008, 7:44 am
Re: Paddling up Hogans Creek

Having seen both the San Antonio Riverwalk and the Indy Canal Walk, I can attest that they are the backbone of  beautiful and successful downtowns in each city.  If only Jax would exploit the tremendous potential it has with Hogan's Creek.  Like so many things in Jax, what could be a tremendous asset, is instead a liability.     
billy
November 26, 2008, 7:54 am
Re: Paddling up Hogans Creek

Isn't there a Canoe Club on the Ortega?
If anything gets done in town, the Hogan's Creek restoration is what would be fantastic.

Somewhere I have a hand tinted photograph of my Grandmother and brother in a sail rigged canoe off of Riverside, cica 1917.
Ocklawaha
November 26, 2008, 9:07 am
Re: Paddling up Hogans Creek


A Jacksonville Story...

As I finished my tour I looked at Jacksonville through new eyes. Here was Paradise Lost, before me stood a primeval forest of large trees, birds chattered above and along the waterfront, but don't tell them by tomorrow, they'll be dead. Yesterdays Goodyears, an old shopping cart, a sofa, another sofa, and a sofa still in use, finally enough condoms to brew a "gottem by the gizmo stew." This is a tragic side of our city.

Oh crap, there's a body up on the bank, just what I want to see on my morning paddle. No it's alive, it's a... a... woman. She has her own bedroom under the stars. A shaky hand extends begging for money, she smiles through broken teeth. She couldn't be a day over 29, but looks all of 50. Suddenly as if by magic, I notice the smell of the water, the mud, the city. It smells like death. Her eye's haven't yet lost the child like sparkle, and her brain is in a haze, she so want's a real friend but she can't trust anyone. But we buy a coffee. I wonder how many miles a vessel must log before becoming the corner Jiffy Lube? Don't worry, some kitchen is making a turkey dinner for her... TOMORROW. About 8 blocks away in a plush office, Peyton and company sit powerless to stop the abuse, powerless to help.

My heart melts, she isn't pretty, she doesn't smell good, she looks in some advanced stage of sickness, yet they keep coming. Why? Why must we use our creek for a public toilet/mental health clinic? Oh look to the port side, 5 more sludge muffins. This is sick, it's a cancer, but it's NOT her fault. Somewhere back down the creek a car pulled up and the door slammed. When it pulled away she was all alone again. Don't sweat the small stuff - she was only 14 the first time, who cares, shes disposable.

The creek too is a waste, cap it over, or put it in a tomb, if we don't act soon the whole city will carry it's unique aire. Do something on Duval Street, something, anything, act damn it! Not to worry, in another 22 minutes the whole scene will disolve into a drug induced fleck of a bad dream. The mind journeys away, back to Yosemite, the Grand Canyon, Okeefenokee or the falls in the Andes. Meadows of flowers, visions of youg girls dancing in fairy rings, toke it... toke it man. Look out the windows, there's cops are in the trees, but nobody knows it, but my business and me. I don't care if it's the narc's or the Fed's, cause I'm tell you man, this city is dead.

My trip or hers? You guess the answer!

God Damn these people! IF THERE'S A HELL BELOW, WE'RE ALL GONNA GO!


We're so screwed!


OCKLAWAHA

Jason
November 26, 2008, 12:06 pm
Re: Paddling up Hogans Creek

Great tour Ock.  I have never seen the creek from those angles.

The benefits of enbracing Hogan's and McCoy's creeks are HUGE!!
Ocklawaha
November 26, 2008, 12:52 pm
Re: Paddling up Hogans Creek

Jason, Agreed, we MUST do something besides talk.

Thanks for the kind words Y'all.

Love to see that photo Billy, can you scan it and post it here?

JBM, right on girl - gotta fix it.

Uptowngirl, Right on love - by the way that dagger reminds me of Dagger Canoes! BEFORE they went Hollywood with Dagger Kayak... http://www.dagger.com/

VicCupState, San Antonio is stunning even in the blistering Texas summer's it's always a shady cool walk or drift down the lazy river. I just tired of playing PRAIRIE DOG every time a spring storm came rolling over the plains.

I have heard of the Ortega Club and a Ponte Vedra area club, certainly I have covered the Ortega as far as a boat and chain saw would allow. Those that want to get into a canoe adventure check out:

http://www.jensencanoes.com/favorite.htm

You can buy a local clunker, but you'll shortly tire of fighting it on a down river run. Department store stuff is pretty much the same junk. Go to an out fitter and get yourself a REAL BOAT for an extra thousand or so. You want speed to get from downtown to the beach and back in a day? Watch your tides - Currents and know one word to ask. Is it a JENSEN design?



OCKLAWAHA
rjp2008
November 26, 2008, 1:33 pm
Re: Paddling up Hogans Creek

A MAJOR renovation and cleanup would be required before the term oasis comes to mind.

Last time I looked, it snakes through an industrial area (coffee plant), under overpasses and waltzes by a major homeless/drug area (liberty center). Parts of it are strewn with trash, shopping carts, and has the look of a dirty retention pond.

The Shipyards could spur something out of it though. IF completed, perhaps investors could be enticed to create some kind of little water taxi that could leave from the Park area and head right into the Shipyards public park area.

Ocklawaha
November 26, 2008, 1:46 pm
Re: Paddling up Hogans Creek

Oasis: In geography, an oasis (plural: oases) is an isolated area of vegetation in a desert, typically surrounding a spring or similar water source. Oases also provide habitat for animals and even humans if the area is big enough...

It doesn't say it has to be pretty - maybe the potential is just implied? But sitting at the East end of Beaver Street at the Ceek, with your favorite homeless friends, that traffic on the Arlington Expressway is screaming along at 103 decibels . Humans can only stand about 90 decibles of sound on a daily 8 hour basis without cracking like an egg. Down below the sounds of that creek, the water, the condoms filtering through the old shopping cart... it's cool, it's green and I like it better then this upholstered sewer we call home.

Oasis? COULD BE.


OCKLAWAHA
downtownparks
November 26, 2008, 2:08 pm
Re: Paddling up Hogans Creek

rjp, most of what you mentioned is the easy part. Its whats in the water and sediment that is where the real costs come in. Hogans Creek is one of the most contaminated creeks in Duval.
triclops i
November 26, 2008, 2:14 pm
Re: Paddling up Hogans Creek

Yo know, I have been getting off the bus at the station then walking up Laura to shanty a few times a week.
And my ? is....

will someone please get that half sunk, muddy, rusty, bum shoppin cart out of Hogans Creek?

I
heights unknown
November 26, 2008, 6:20 pm
Re: Paddling up Hogans Creek

Unless the Author of this thread left out some pics of the worst part(s) of Hogan's Creek, from what I can see it looks a lot cleaner than when I last lived in Jacksonville.  I can remember it being much more polluted and littered than what I see in these pics; especially that part of Hogan's Creek that runs through Confederate Park and along and just off of Jefferson Street, etc.

It does have great potential, but it needs to be cleaned up first, and the surrounding areas that it runs through upgraded and reconstructed so that Jax can get the full benefits and enjoyment from Hogan's Creek.

Heights Unknown

jbm32206
November 26, 2008, 6:54 pm
Re: Paddling up Hogans Creek

Every time I've seen it around Boulevard, Pearl, Liberty....there's always trash along the banks and in the water....
Ocklawaha
November 26, 2008, 7:44 pm
Re: Paddling up Hogans Creek

Heights, I authored it with Lakelanders comments. Lake tossed in the other city photos so we could get a "could be" feel to it. As far as I can tell, the photos cover every inch of the creek from the river-mouth to the Arlington Expressway. A canoe will NOT fit under the expressway and neither will the storm water run off. The upper reaches photos are hit and miss, and DO NOT cover the creek above the expressway in detail. It should be noted that the first major obsticle to canal boats, swan boats, tunnel-of-love or canoes and kayaks is the damn expressway box. The orgininal Confederate Park bridges could probably be raised about 4 feet in height and repositioned. Thus spared and preserved.

A cleanup won't be complete without attention to detail and storm water from 8Th Street area. A skimmer grid to pick out trash and then really funding someone to come and pick it out would be vital to the health of everyone. Bridges and rails can be built so no one gets their butt under one. Anyone that does, needs more help then I can offer. 

(Wow, anyone that just saw me mess this up with a quote tag from heights must think I'm flying... Nope never more then 16' high - anyway got it fixed).


OCKLAWAHA
deathstar
November 27, 2008, 1:53 am
Re: Paddling up Hogans Creek

The Indianapolis Canal Walk is so simple, and looks very calming indeed. I can't believe, of all my 26 years of living here, that a website I found by accident one day through a Google search, has shown me more of Jacksonville in less than a year, than I could ever imagine was here. I've got so much exploring to do, and I honestly can admit, I was BORED before I found this place. I'll have to mention Hogans Creek to my Dad and Grandfather, they'd enjoy canoeing there!
GatorShane
December 3, 2008, 11:32 am
Re: Paddling up Hogans Creek

I can only dream of what could be done with this!
JaxNative68
December 23, 2008, 11:24 am
Re: Paddling up Hogans Creek

And I thought I was cynical about how Jacksonville has ignored its potential and natural beauty for decades, but Ocklawaha you have me beat today.

Maybe if the city quit squandering our taxpayer dollars by padding the good ole’ boy pockets for meaningless projects and actually spent it on our infrastructure and our natural resources, Jacksonville could be a real contender in this state’s/nation’s future.  Peyton has turned out to be the worst Mayor for this city yet.  Keep pissing the tax dollars away Mayor Peyton and maybe you can run the city deeper into ground than it is today!
Ocklawaha
December 23, 2008, 12:12 pm
Re: Paddling up Hogans Creek

Yeah, at first I was awed by the wonder hidden under our noses, then when I got up into the "enchanted forest" my mood changed. I'm proud our city at least feeds and offers the homeless a warm bed. Orlando simply makes it illegal to be homeless! But the sewer that this "garden of eden" has become is sickening.

We're it not for some LEGAL pain meds and a full bottle of Rebel Yell, I might not have made it out with my head screwed on....

Rather, I just paddled in and "FLOATED OUT!"


OCKLAWAHA
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